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Personal coaching from a mentor or offer your servicesLive chat IRC veterans: connect to irc.snoonet.org:6667 and join #photography. Last year i am considering of buying an analog medium format camera. For the moment i have no experience with medium format.I will use it to make landscape like pictures, reportage. Not directly for portraits or studio photography. But I'm not afraid to walk around with a big or heavy (or studio) camera.First i was interested in the Pentax 67 because of the 6 by 7 negative balance. Also the SLR-like build looks great for my kind of photography.
I fell in love with the looks of the camera.But then I've read about the Mamiya RZ67. I own almost all of those, except for the Hassy; I have a Bronica SQ-A. When I was reading your post, I was going to recommend the Pentax, but then I got to the part where you talk about the advantages of the RZ.
Those are my big pluses for the RZ over the Pentax and even the Bronica (and 645 format I use). Having the large 7x7cm instant image is great. Being able to simply turn the back makes things very easy to switch orientation. You can get the 645 and 6x6 backs for the RZ. The 6x6 is harder to find and more expensive, but the 645 ones aren't too bad in price ($50?).Can the RZ be hand held?
I do it and got some fantastic shots (even with the long 180mm lens). Can you hike and shoot the RZ? Absoletly.Why did I get the Pentax 6x7 (my most recent body)? I wanted a 6x7 that I can take around a little easier (that was cheaper than a Mamiya 7/7ii) but mainly it was the amazing images I've seen form the Pentax 67 lenses.So, you want a recommendation? I'd say, if you want all that in the RZ, get that. Then if you feel like you want something smaller, get a Pentax for 6x7 or Hassy for 6x6. I used to shoot with a Hasselbald, it was the finest mechanical object I've ever owned.
But everything associated with it is expensive, consider what lenses you currently use, and whether you would be better off with a Mamiya or bronica with more lenses, film backs, and accessories.The zeiss lenses have great sharpness and contrast, but using a bellows style lens hood, even in situations without major backlight, makes more of a difference. For sharpness, tripod, mirror release, etc make a bigger difference in most situations than the lens. Each of these cameras occupy a different point on the graph of versatility vs weight. The Hassy is the lightest and most versatile.
It's easy to carry and easy to hand hold. The larger cameras obviously have more negative area, and when used with good craft, can produce excellent results.In my opinion, the larger cameras are too large. Not only are they larger, but they often require use of a tripod in order to maximize their capacity.
So not only are they larger, they require an even larger support system which requires a very deliberate approach to taking pictures. For general walking around or candid people photograhy, you won't the larger systems.Scanning is a significant chore with these larger negatives. In my opinion, home scanning technologies never fulfilled the needs of advanced hobbyists. Only commercial scanners costing thousands of dollars can reliably extract all the useful information out of most negatives. Sometimes you can get a good develop and scan deal. However, nearly all of these will not deliver 16bit files. Very good jpgs, yes.
Maybe good enough. But I am not 100% confident in them.Digital backs are a possibility down the road. However, used backs are often hard to find. A tiny handful of retail stores carry used backs, but they are usually priced $5000 and up.
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More like $8 to $9000. It's not an expense a sophisticated hobbyist will make. Digital backs on analog systems also require power and other kinds of cabling which often limit their use to studio applications.If you have enough money to buy camera equipment for niche uses, then certainly go ahead.
But if you need wide versatility, a digital camera really is the way to go. I own 4x5's, Hasselblad's, Nikons, digital Nikons, etc, and I really can't rationalize the use of the analog formats anymore.
They do have a look I respect, but getting the materials developed and scanned, at a price point that doesn't pinch every time, is a real pain. The blad and the RZ can be upgraded to digital back in the future. The Pentax 67 is unreliable, chain operated film winder tends to break, and is an SLR body so you would need more than one body if you shoot fast and or Polaroids.The neg area of the RZ is considerably greater if you don't shoot square ie if you would intend to crop the blad negs to ie 2:3 ratio or whatever, or buy the 6 x 4.5 back. I would go Hasselblad 500 because they are just the most beautiful camera you will ever own. Beautiful to use, to look at, optics are great, compatible with lenses old and new. Just make sure with secondhand backs that the serial numbers match between the insert and the case of the back, as they were hand made, as paired inserts and cases, so you can't mix and match, as film may not wind on straight, light leaks etc.No such problem with Mamiya. RZs weigh a ton, but if you want big negs without going to large format, it's the best bet.
Reliable, easy to get lenses and good value. Oh, I just started asking the same question. I've got a baby coming some time in the future, and figured it'd be a good excuse reason to get a camera for using at waist level.
I'm also considering TLRs - currently I'm looking at a C220 with an 80mm f/2.8.Currently the only experience I have with MF is a Fuji GW690ii (ton of fun, but gets kind of awkward) and a Holga (well. It's got two aperture settings).I'm looking forward to what this thread comes up with.Edit: just scored a sweet deal on a Hasselblad 500c with the 80/2.8. I guess that's one less thing to worry about. I'll be taking the GW690ii to B&H tomorrow to see how much they'll give me for it. I was originally looking at a Yashica 124, but I looked around and saw that some of the f/2.8 lenses would be within my budget, and I figured that I might be able to get away with shooting indoors with that, DoF be damned.Funny story, I remember very clearly playing with a weird boxy thing with a top down finder as a very young kid. It belonged to my dad.
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I asked him recently what it was, and he said it was a Rolleiflex. When I asked him where it was, he said, 'I dunno. I didn't have any use for it so I gave it away.'
Anyway, see edit. I think I'm all set for now.
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I owned a 500cm, and Pentax 67 ll, plus I have worked with a RZ67. My persoanl favorite of the 3 cameras would be the Pentax 67, but I mostly photographed people and the Pentax lenses are on the soft side, so for people photography it was very forgiving. There are polaroid backs for the Pentax 67, I have one, but I also have a extra body for that back.The bigger neg is almost always better, but for landscape, I would also consider lens sharpness and camera weight, plus you can carry extra film backs with the Blad, one loaded with color film, and the other with black and white film. I would say for the type of photography you want to do (landscape), I would go with the Blad, because it does have better lenses for that type of work.Cropping down to 645 is still very good if you do not use the full 6x6 format. If size does not matter I would still go Hasselblad, otherwise I would go one step up to sheet film, 4x5, 5x7, or 8x10. Last year I bought a Hasselblad 503CX after a long deliberation between it and a mamiya RZ system. I'm glad I made the choice I did because it's an incredibly versatile system and the lenses are killer (not that the mamiya lenses aren't).
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I am more than happy to carry it around on the street and shoot it there, and equally as happy to use it in studio for portraits. If your friend would be so willing, you should take it out for a test-drive before buying. Run a roll of your favourite film through it and see what you get. Be sure to stop down the lens a bit because your DOF will be razor thin.Edit: Forgot to mention that digital backs for the V system are available without any special mounting plates, though you'll be shooting a cropped 4x6.5' and you will want to invest in a prism finder. I have both the rz67ii and the hassy 500cm.
I really like 6x6 format and with the rz you can get different backs, 6x6, polaroid like you mentioned. It is a big camera though, and depending on which lens, it gets even bigger. With the 180mm on it's massive. With the 110 it's not bad. There are short barrel versions too.
Bellows extensions for macro or close up is a plus.I don't have many images online but here are two.is one of my first shots on the rz, crappy scan and water marks on the negative, but it's still crazy sharp, this was Acros 100. Handheld.is portra on the 65mm lens, on a tripod, probably a bit overdone in lightroom but whatever.I don't have any images from the hassy online, but could probably post when I get home if interested.The hassy is easier to carry around for sure, filters are annoying if you use them, no filter threads, just the bayonet mount. So you need adapters or new filters.Looking through those viewfinders is amazing though. The hassy is more 3d than the rz.I've wanted a p67 for ages. Too many cameras.Edit, 180mm not 150mm.
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